Gated schemes allowed if 51% residents agreed

News abstractd from Star Online.....Link

Taman Subang Ria Development Plan Rejected by MPSJ

On Behalf of SJRA I take this opportunity say a BIG THANK YOU to Yb Tan Sri Khalid, YB Hannah Yeoh, Dato Adnan, All MPSJ Councillors, Mdm Theresa Thong, En Chang, En Ismail, SJRA Advisors, SJ Alerts Robert Chan, all members of SJRA, Bandar Sunway RA, USJ RA, SJ Consumer Association, JKP-Zon1, Friends of Subang Ria Park, All main new media, RT's and all supporters and concerned citizens for supporting this noble endeavour to save our only park. We should now move quickly to the next phase in our plans to get the park back in the hands of MPSJ and start work on restoring it to regain its pride of being a proper park for all residents of SJ, USJ and BS.

May God bless you all for doing the Right things and Righting the Wrongs of our Previous administration.

Warmest Regards

AS Gill

+60(12)3112091

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From: Theresa Ratnam Thong

Subject: SJ Alert EMS Taman Subang Ria

Dear Residents

This is to inform you that MPSJ has rejected Sime UEP's application to develop Taman Subang Ria Park, pursuant to OSC meeting dated 4th May and MPSJ Full Board Meeting today.

The approved Subang Jaya Local Plan has maintained the whole area as a recreational park and will remain as such.

We will now await for Tan Sri Mentri Besar's Office to advise us on the valuation of the land and next course of action.

Thank you for your kind attention.

Warm regards

Theresa Ratnam Thong

Ahli Majlis MPSJ

Thank you for your support - fr Gill

News of the gathering on 28 April 2010 at Holiday Villa....
Star Online News on 30 April 2010 - Khalid: Work out costs of upgrading Subang Ria Park
Komunitikini News on 30 April 2010 by Levin - Selangor MB claims Subang Ria park can be reclaimed

Dear Residents,
I, as the chairman of SJRA, take this opportunity to thank YAB Tan Sri Khalid bin Ibrahim, the Menteri Besar of Selangor for taking time off from his busy schedule to meet the residents of Subang Jaya to hear their views on the future of Subang Ria Park, which is the only sizeable Green Lung in Subang Jaya. I am also grateful to him for having agreed to look into acquiring the Subang Ria Park from Sime Darby as requested by the residents with one voice. We are also happy that the park will be cleaned up.

To all the stakeholders, who turned up in big numbers, in spite of being a working day and supported this noble endeavour and all our well-wishers mentioned below, a big thank you. SJRA looks forward to your continued support to make Subang Jaya a better community for us and our future generations.

I also wish to place on record my thanks to our Adun YB Hannah Yeoh for having arranged this fruitful dialogue with YAB Menteri Besar.

You can get this and more information on our blog at

http://www.sj-ra.blogspot.com/

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Thanks to the following groups and individuals for their support and efforts.

There are many others who worked behind the scenes and spoke up for the future of the park thank you too.

- Derek Fenandez - Lawyer/Advisor

- Wan Haron - Lawyer/Advisor

- Dato Majid - Lawyer/Advisor

- Dato Lawrence CC Lim - Summervilla

- Dato Lee Hwa Beng - Advisor

- Robert Chan - SJ Alert

- Hanif Merican - Sri KL

- Subang Jaya RA - Committee and members

- Consumer Association - Lau Bing and Committee

- JKP zone 1 - Mdm Theresa and committee

- Bandar Sunway RA - A Bala and committee

- USJ RA - Melvin and committee

- SS 12 RA - Jonathan Achu and committee

- SS 13 RA - Tamilvanan and committee

- SS14 RA - Joe Mahinder and Committee-

- SS14 RA - Joe Mahinder and Committee-

- SS 15 RT - Rita Bhardwaj

- SS 15 Commercial - Dato Samson Mamam

- SS19 RA - Eunice Fenandez

- Buddhist Association - Chim Siew Choon and committee

- Subang Sikh Association - Amrick Singh and committee

- Baiduri RA - Lua Ai Siew and committee

- Spring Villa RA - Pritpal Singh and committee

- Summer Villa RA - Michael Cheah and committee

- Main stream media (Star, Sun, Utusan)

- Alt Media (Malaysiakini)

- Police - Tuan Sulaiman Baputty and his officers

Warmest Regards

AS Gill

+60(12)3112091

Subang Residents Says No...

The Star - 15 April 2010 - Subang folk stand firm against park project
KomunitiKini - 14 April 2010 - Subang residents say no to Sime’s development plans

Dialogue Session with MB on Subang Ria Park

Date : Wednesday, 28/04/2010

Time : 8.00pm

Venue : Holiday Villa, SS12

The Sewage Treatment Plant in SS16, Subang Jaya

Dear friends,

You must agree that something needs to done quickly about this problem.

I am going through the channels provided. I hope you too can put some pressure on the powers that be to produce an early result.

Report in PDF file.

Kind regards.
A. B. Naicker
Subang Jaya
abnaicker@gmail.com
+6019 – 272 3223

The Hearing of Objections to Sime Darby's Application Re Subang Ria Park

From: A. B. Naicker

Sent: Friday, April 9, 2010 21:11:19

Dear friends,

This note is in reference to the hearing of objections to Sime Darby’s application for change of land status and sub-division of Subang Ria Park.

The hearing will be held at MPSJ’s office in USJ5 at 9:30am on Wednesday, 14th April 2010.

Please note that:-

1. Each entity will be represented by ONLY 3 persons, one of whom should (preferably) be the signatory to the Letter of Objection.

2. MPSJ is allowing any number of other persons from every entity to attend the hearing as OBSERVERS. These observers cannot address the hearing. Please gather as many observers as possible as this will present a physical ‘show of strength’ J.

3. No members of the press will be allowed to attend.

Please advise how many persons (the 3 official representatives and the number of observers) who will be attending the hearing. The request for this advice is to enable MPSJ to make provisions for enough seats in the room. Please do this by e-mail or by sms by Monday, 12th April 2010.

Thank you.

A. B. Naicker

Subang Jaya

abnaicker@gmail.com

+6019 – 272 3223

Do We Have to Pay for This?

from the desk of A. B. Naicker, Subang Jaya

Read the whole report in PDF format.

From Gill

Dear Friend of Subang Ria Park,

Pls think carefully, don't be deceived by the new govt. Open your eyes please

1) The name is Subang Ria Park......what is a Park (wikipedia definition)

A park is a protected area, in its natural or semi-natural state, or planted, and set aside for human recreation and enjoyment, or for the protection of wildlife or natural habitats. It may consist of rocks, soil, water, flora and fauna and grass areas.

2) It was already a park built by Sime-UEP in early 80's to help sell houses, land title was given much later.

3) Only the theme park had entrance fees, the rest was free for everybody.

4) At that time the requiremet was 5% open space(now it is 2 hectares per 1000 residents). and there was much open land before it was sold by greedy developers and tainted council officers, without any regard or respect for residents wishes by old govt, the new govt is now trying to do the same. Remember SS14 circle house land. SS15 field where they built the house. 5) Sime has already milked the park for their commercial purchases to sell properties in Subang Jaya and elsewhere, they should not return the PARK to the residents in good faith.

6) Sime is not going to waste another cent on this park without commerical gain, they deliberatley destroyed all facilities. Remember their first plan to convert to shopping.

7) Our former adun had the guts to stand up to the state exco and our current adun seems to be singing the state exco song of "we need development" ......but at what cost.

8) This type of rape of our environment can only happen if we as residents stay silent and let it happen. Look at the spin in the msg from our current adun where questions have not been answere yet.

1) Questions which beg answers from MPSJ and the New State Government ( the media is strongly encouraged to get answers to this questions from YDP, Mentri Besar, Unit Perancang, etc)

a. Since non recreational development was rejected by residents at a public hearing in 2007 why did MPSJ accept this revised non creational development submission in the first place? Has the new government no respect for the wishes of the rakyat.

b. Why is the local draft plan which clearly shows Subang Ria Park as a green lung not referred to for rejecting the submission at the start of the process.

c. Why are the requirements of the Town and Country planning act (2007) for 2 acres for every 1,000 residents not enforced or adhered to. There is so much development already approved around the park especially in SS16.

d. On what basis is Sime properties submitting proposals for the near annihilation of our only town park for Subang Jaya and USJ (taking 30 out of 42 acres). What happened to their CSR which was so widely publicised was it only a PR exercise at taxpayer’s expanse. The residents expect the Govt and the GLC’s to walk the talk.

e. The residents would also like SELCAT to look into this submission from all angles, ethical, social, fiduciary, environmental etc as to what went grossly wrong.

Warmest Regards

AS Gill

+60(12)3112091

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ADUN Hannah Yeoh's response

Sent: Thu, April 1, 2010 10:21:54 PM

Debunking the myths of Taman Subang Ria

This is my response to the former assemblyman’s article “It’s an urban park” published in The Star on 25 March 2010:

An urban park?

The former assemblyman continues to mislead the residents of Subang Jaya with the claim that the park was alienated as an “urban park”. Where did that term come from? The land title for the park which is currently held by Sime UEP Properties Bhd only states that the land is for recreational purpose [Tanah ini hendaklah digunakan semata-mata untuk taman rekreasi dan bangunan yang berkaitan dengannya]. According to Manual Garis Panduan Dan Piawaian Perancangan Negeri Selangor, recreational could mean a hall, food stalls, driving range, resort, water park and etc. That's the reason why Restaurant Crocodile Farm has been allowed to operate on the park all these years. It is not expressly stated anywhere on the title that it is an urban park unless the former assemblyman has access to other unknown documents which state otherwise.

Public hearings a waste of public funds?

The former assemblyman also claims that he has fervently rejected development on the park previously, up to four times. And then he surprisingly questions the need of an upcoming public hearing which MPSJ will be organizing.

A public hearing is a key element of Local Agenda 21, irrespective of history and personalities involved. Any proposed development must be subjected to a public hearing if there are objections raised by affected parties, and this is a principle of the new administration which I have strived to ensure that MPSJ upholds.

As to the upcoming public hearing on the proposal by Sime for subdivision and conversion of usage of the land, this proposal is different than the one that was presented in 2007. The public hearing in 2007 has only resulted in the developer withdrawing their application to develop the park. It did not resolve the issue at hand. As such, I find it completely hypocritical of the former assemblyman’s statement implying that it was perfectly alright for MPSJ to have conducted a public hearing in 2007 but not in 2010.

Why wasn’t the history revealed to the residents all these years?

The former assemblyman is very quick to dismiss responsibility of the previous administration over this long-standing quandary and one which the present administration has inherited.

The recent declassification by the current Menteri Besar disclosing details of the minutes of an EXCO meeting held in 1987 has exposed the dealings of the previous state government and the rationale employed then in alienating the park.

Taman Subang Ria existed prior to the alienation in 1987. I know this for a fact because I frequented the park as a young child in the early 80’s. Somehow in 1987, the then state government decided it wise to sell this park and at that point, Taman Subang Ria turned from a public park to a private park. Sime obtained a 99-year lease, and it will only expire in the year 2087.

Taman Subang Ria was part of the open space of the Subang Jaya township and corresponding municipality prior to 1987. Any calculation of available open space for Subang Jaya in 1987 would rightfully have included all available open space, and that includes Taman Subang Ria. The decision to alienate this public park to any developer at any point of time would be a most absurd decision, but sadly it has already taken place some 23 years ago.

“Over my dead body?”

The former assemblyman is somewhat fondly remembered for certain oft-quoted phrases, one of which takes the form of a public pledge that Taman Subang Ria can only be developed over his dead body. Some people may find the pledge heroic, maybe even self-sacrificial. I find it amusing.

Over the years, we have seen for ourselves how the condition of the park has deteriorated, even succumbing at one point to being a haunt for criminals. The lack of any decent upkeep and upgrade of facilities in the park over the years is very ironic in the context of the public pledge of the former assemblyman, almost validating the horrid statement that even if anything is to be done to better the park it can only happen over his dead body.

Such a public pledge has not helped the people one bit in the efforts to reclaim the park. In fact, the former assemblyman himself has confessed to having to reject development proposals four times in his more than a decade tenure as the assemblyman. I wonder why his public pledge did not manage to put a stop to further development proposals. Absolutely no progress was recorded in reclaiming the park for the people in his three-terms as an assemblyman. Not a single inch of land was gained; in fact more of the so-called “urban park” land was utilized during that time for the use of a car park by an adjacent private hospital.

State government should right the wrong?

And finally, the former assemblyman has proposed for Sime to surrender the land back to the state government without any indication of a viable mechanism and logical justification for land owner to commit to such an action. Why is this proposal only being floated now? Why wasn’t this pursued in his thirteen years as an assemblyman?

How to right 2 wrongs?

Let’s just wildly assume, hypothetically, that the current state government is to pursue the above course of action. In the recently declassified information, we have learned that Sime paid for the land in kind via an “exchange deal” or "timbal balik-kontra", providing the then state government with 10 units of houses situated in SS19, Subang Jaya. If Sime were to surrender the land today, the state government should fairly return the 10 units of houses back as well.

But guess what? Those very same 10 houses have in turn been used in another trade-off deal in May 2004, this time with another developer, Syarikat Gapurna Builders Sdn Bhd. This land-swap deal was revealed in the Selangor State Assembly last July 2009, and I duly published it on my blog immediately thereafter. This latest land-swap deal happened during the term of the former assemblyman. Knowing full well the importance of those 10 houses in SS19, having been traded off previously for Taman Subang Ria, how could this former assemblyman allow such a deal to take place yet again? How could he even contemplate repeating any of his public pledges today and issue public statements proclaiming his ‘undying’ passion for the park?

We need a new and fresh pragmatic approach

I am committed to ensure that current park users will be able to continue using the park for recreational purpose yet at the same time, finding a permanent solution for the land title to come back into the state government’s hand. I will host a public dialogue in the coming weeks to consult the residents on how this can be done amicably and practically. May this letter of mine serve to set the record straight and effectively re-align our efforts in reclaiming the park for the people.

Posted by Hannah Yeoh at 1:33 AM

SUBANG RIA WAS ALIENATED AS AN URBAN PARK - by DATO’ LEE HWA BENG

From: "Dato' Lee Hwa Beng"

Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 09:45:05

Metro Mail Star Publication

Dear Sir,

SUBANG RIA WAS ALIENATED AS AN URBAN PARK

I refer to the recent decision by MPSJ to seek public opinion on the development of Taman Subang Ria in Subang Jaya and also the decision of the Selangor State Government to declassify the minutes on the alienation of the land to Sime UEP Sdn Bhd.

As stated in the declassified records, the park was alienated to Sime UEP in 1986 in exchange for 10 units of houses valued of RM 2.7 million.

The MB was quoted in the press that the land belongs to Sime UEP and hence the company got the right to develop the land. However, the land was alienated by the previous state administration as urban park (or recreational land). As such this 72.64 acres of land should remain as urban park. That is why as a former councillor of MPSJ, MPPJ and state assemblyman for Subang Jaya, I have played a key role to reject any development in this beautiful park a least 4 times. The last time was in 2007 where more than 1000 residents attended the public hearing arranged by me where it was overwhelmingly rejected by those present.

I also cannot understand the logic of another public hearing when it was already rejected by more than 1000 residents in a properly held public hearing organized by MPSJ. It will be a wastage of public funds and the residents time.

Hence, nobody should blame the previous administration whether at MPSJ or State level in the handling of this issue. The declassified documents proved it is not part of the open space requirement of SJ development but separately alienated as urban park. The local authorities had rejected 4 times proposals for development. In fact, the 72.64 acres had increased the open space area of Subang Jaya (SS15 to SS19) from the original 5% to 10%. This is because previously only 5% are required for open space.

I have been quoted in the press that this park can only be developed over my dead body. However this pledge cannot apply now as I am no more the State Assemblyman. However, my passion to preserve the park still remains.

As the original intention of the then state government alienated it for urban park, it SHOULD remains so, If Sime UEP where in 1986 thought it okay to accept the land as urban park but many now think otherwise now, it should then surrender the land back to the state government.

After all, I believe this park had been a good selling point for Sime UEP in selling their properties in SJ and USJ.

DATO’ LEE HWA BENG

Former State Assemblyman for Subang Jaya

Houses exchanged for land premium: Abdul Khalid

The Sun - 100317 - Houses exchanged for land premium 

Correspondences with ADUN, YB Hannah Yeoh

From: A.S Gill

To: Hannah Yeoh

Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 7:07:21

Subject: Re: SJ Alert EMS Sime application for sub- division

Dear Yb,

You have not answered the main question. Why has this application for subdivision not been rejected yet? ( based mainly on the 2007 hearing that the rakyat do not want non recreational developement on this lot and the other 3 reasons). How is this proposal different?. They take all the meat and leave a few bones. Residents are also not buying into "They are surrendering a big portion" etc etc,. Look at the proposal in detail and do your maths(or go thru SJRA's calculations). We want to see results of CAT(Competent, Accountable and Transparent), not just speeches and makan makan. Perhaps it is time for score cards.

We residents are only expressing our frustration with the system PR inherited and we want it corrected not condoned. We are not blaming you as we know you support us. We are only taking the cue from the speeches made so far. Pls take this msg upwards to the state level. This charade has to stop as the residents are not buying it anymore we want to see results and we want to see them quickly.

Prove to us thru actions as action will always speak louder that words. We are disappointed with this wholesale rape of our environment, quality of life and our childrens bleak future.

SJRA apologies if we pointed out the truth openly as truth always hurts. This truth should be serioulsy noted acted upon immediately. Subang Ria Park is very close to the residents hearts. We have wasted enough time on this and there are many more issues that need to be corrected or fixed.

Warmest Regards on behalf of SJRA

AS Gill

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From: Hannah Yeoh

To: A.S Gill

Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 12:35:35

Subject: Re: SJ Alert EMS Sime application for sub- division

Dear Mr Gill,

Based on our previous working experience on other issues and on Taman Subang Ria itself, I was most surprised and disappointed with the tone of your email in which my commitment to the residents of Subang Jaya was questioned. I wish to clarify that:

- Sime Darby has not obtained a Development Order from MPSJ for their proposal, hence the service of notice on adjoining land owners and for objections to be filed;

- I believe the public hearing for 2007 only resulted in Sime Darby withdrawing their application then. If you know of any other decisions apart from this, please provide it to me. I cannot rely on hearsay. I await YDP's reply on this; and

- The new proposal is different from the proposal in 2007 (the new one involves surrendering a big portion of the park to the state authority) hence the engagement with resident groups in two different meetings to obtain their feedback.

As the ADUN for Subang Jaya, I represent residents from SS12-SS19, USJ 1 to USJ 15, PJS 7,9 and 11. I hear what your goodself and the other vocal residents in Subang Jaya are saying ie. recreational development only. I do hear it loud and clear. However, I have a responsibility to also consider views by other residents and most importantly the current park users to ensure all of them understand the entire scenario and the implications of their stand.

I have written to the State Planning Director for status of the draft local plan and yet to receive a reply. MPSJ has informed me last Thursday that they will submit the objections raised by the resident groups to MB and the Excos.

I will keep you posted on any status updates. I am unable to copy the rest of the recipients in your email as I am not part of the google/yahoo groups. Lastly, let me reassure you that my commitment is to my constituents and I hope we can continue to work together for the best interest of the residents. Thank you.

Regards,

Hannah

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On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 2:43 PM,

A.S Gill wrote:

Yb Hannah Yeoh, Dato Adnan,

Many residents have asked me to convey this strong message to the both of you.

I have consolidated the inputs and below is the Readers Digest version

1) We the residents want this application to be rejected immediately based on the 4 reasons given in the press conference on the 6th March, 2010.

a. Public hearing of 2007 still valid, no non recreational development on this lot. No need for another hearing.

b. Follow draft local plan as it is a green lung and the only sizeable green lung for Subang Jaya.

c. Follow town and country planning act of 2007(1,000 residents, 2 acres)

d. This is our only town park, go back to history for all you want but take it back and gazette it as such.

2) Stop giving political answers like it is private land, they can do want they want etc. In today’s world the stakeholders and eco-friendly terminologies are used as there are responsibilities, requirements, and social expectations for an equitable and better world. Learn from Mar, 2008, the ground has shifted significantly and we are sure you will agree.

3) Stop assuming that the residents are stupid just because they do not openly voice their feelings. Everybody is very well informed and the communication is amazing. We want past mistakes corrected not condoned. So new government should listen very carefully to the spoken and unspoken voices.

4) This nonsense of abuse of the law and not the spirit of the law has to stop, when it suits the governmentt they use the laws and when it does not they ignore them (good example is the 2007 hearing being ignored). i.e. both of you said they have a right to apply. Hello they lost this right when residents objected in 2007 to any non recreational development. Stop trying to pull wool over the eyes of residents as it will not work anymore and probably backfire.

5) Lastly the residents are very tired of the charade, cut to the chase and do what the residents of Subang Jaya, Bandar Sunway and USJ expect of good governance, clean living with world class quality of life.

Some vocal residents approached me and questioned Yb's allegiance and SJRA members went to great length to explain that Yb is for the residents, as that is not the impression that Yb's short speech created.

Hope we can end this issue once and for all as it is very close to the residents hearts and nothing short of getting the park back to and for the residents will appease the residents.

Warmest Regards

AS Gill

Big turn up despite the drizzle

Dear Residents,

Thank you for your participation to support the "SAVE SUBANG RIA PARK GATHERING" on 6 march 2010 morning 7:30am despite the drizzle. The following memorandums were handed over to the press and YB Hannah Yeoh from SJRA Chairman, Mr A.S. Gill. 

• Press Statement from SJRA - Mr A.S. Gill
• Objection Letter from Spring Villa
• Objection Letter from WBRA
• Objection Letter from SJRA

Further information will be posted in this blog to update the residents regarding the progress of objection.

Supporting Documents

• Land Title of Subang Ria Park
• Chronology
• Proposal Layout Plan by Sime UEP
• Memorandum 2005
• Brochure of Subang Jaya Phase 20
• Brochure of Subang Jaya Phase 33

Correspondences with Authorities

• 2005-01-12 Letter from Ex-ADUN, Dato' Lee Hwa Beng
• 2005-03-11 Letter from Ex-MP, Loh Seng Kok
• 2009-05-28 Letter from MPSJ, Ismail Bin Muhamad

News Clips of Subang Ria Park (2005-2010)

• 2005-05-02 Malay Mail - Residents want Ria Park gazetted
• 2005-05-17 Malay Mail - Take park developer to court
• 2005-08-08  The Star - Decide park's status, state govt. urged
• 2007-04-10 The Star - Folks see red over plans to develop park
• 2007-06-26 The Sun - Don't sacrifice Subang Ria Park
• 2007-07-16 Harian Metro - Penduduk Bantah
• 2007-07-16 Malay Mail - Residents stand their ground
• 2007-07-17 Star Metro - Subang folks unite to make a stand
• 2009-03-25 Need to maintain park in SS12
• 2010-02-03 Malay Mail - End the Subang Ria Park waiting game

SAVE OUR SUBANG RIA PARK

Join us on 6th March 2010 (Sat) 7:30am to save our Subang Ria Park.

Venue : Subang Ria Car Park
Attire : Green T-Shirt

Come! Do something before we lose it!